ESTERO COMMUNITY PLANNING PANEL
Minutes of Public Meeting #126– February 21, 2011
Park, Estero, Florida
Panel Members Present:
Jack Lienesch, Civic Association, Chairman; John Goodrich, ECCL ; Ned
Dewhirst, Estero development community; Erik Dickens, ECCL; Jeff Maas,
Estero Chamber of Commerce; Neal Noethlich, Emeritus Chairman; Bev
MacNellis, Treasurer, ECCL and Bill Brown, Recording Secretary, ECCL.
Absent: Greg Toth, Founding Member; Dan DeLisi, Estero development
Brown reported that NBC-2 had a story, and
the notice was in the News –Press and the Naples Daily News online
calendars, the Century- Link Estero Events Calendar and Esterofl.org
websites. The notice was posted at the South County Regional
Library, Realty World of Estero, and the BB&T and the Fifth Third Banks.
Approval of Minutes: Brown distributed minutes of the JANUARY 24th
meeting. Dickens: Motion to accept the minutes: Maas
Seconded. Accepted unanimously.
MacNellis reported a balance of $1,198.72
as of January 31, 2011. Report accepted.
CR 951 –
Commissioner Ray Judah
Commissioner Judah used a power point
presentation with the following slides: 001 is the CREW lands, 002 is a
2010 aerial showing the proposed CR951 route, 003 is the same but
showing the properties as they appeared in 2004 and 004 is the Alico
Research Diamond area. Commissioner Judah told the group that although
CR 951 was not needed today, the MPO should keep it in the long-range
plan because it might be needed in 10-20 years and it would be very
difficult to revive. He said he had consulted with the county appraiser
and was told that whether or not CR 951 was kept in the plan it would
have no impact on the value of the Edison Farms property. Dewhirst said
he agreed with Judah that it should be kept in for planning purposes. Noethlich
indicated that he had been part of a study group that had recommended
that the route should be moved further east. Maas said the area will
continue to grow and the route will be needed to relieve traffic
congestion. Wildcat Run resident Jim Dodge did not buy Judah's
argument. "The growth won't happen if you don't build these roads," he
said. "Mass transit, affordable housing - those are the things that
would free up I-75, not building a parallel road that's right up next to
us." Deborah Rardin supported Judah position. A Grandezza resident
told Judah that they would like to meet with him to discuss this
further, and he agreed. Goodrich pointed out that both the Audubon and
the Conservancy are opposed to CR 951. The panel noted that this
issue will be discussed at an upcoming ECCL meeting in March.
Administrative Amendment for the
Preserve at Corkscrew
– Stacy Hewitt, Director of Planning, Banks Engineering
Preserve at Corkscrew is on the south side of Corkscrew Road west of
Bella Terra and east of Monte Cristo. The owner is proposing that
previously approved multi-family tracts be revised to allow a single
family option. Minor site plan changes are also proposed including an
innovative design for two of the cul-de-sacs to allow for a joint
driveway off the cul-de-sacs which requires 3 additional deviation
requests. The first deviation would eliminate the requirement for dead
end streets to end with a turnaround. The second deviation would revise
the requirement on utility easement on each side of the right-of-way by
providing for a utility easement on only one side. The third deviation
would revise the requirement for a minimum width of 40 feet for two-way
private local streets to allow a 30-foot width. Goodrich asked how many
houses and was told that there would be 6 or 7 at each location.
Lienesch expressed concern as to the visibility of house numbers.
Dickens asked about emergency equipment and was told that fire
departments have not complained about the proposed arrangement. Noethlich
asked why only Chapter 30 was referred to on signage whereas Chapter 33
is also applicable. He was told this would be taken care of at the time
of the Development Order review. Dewhirst pointed out the absence of
interconnections. Lienesch suggested they should consider
interconnections with the neighboring commercial property to the East
(Bella Terra). It was explained that they had tried to work out
interconnection with neighboring developments with no success. Dewhirst
suggested that the County should enforce the policy of interconnections.
When asked about timing, the developer indicated he would like to begin
construction “in about four months.” Lienesch said the minutes
will show that the Panel supports the requested amendments.
Workplan Development – Kathie
Ebaugh gave us her and Paul O’ Connor’s feedback to the
Estero Community Plan Scope of Services that was drafted by Dan
1.) Not enough detail. Each item needs to identify what
we want to accomplish along with each step's deliverables and relative
time frames to do it.
2.) We need to prioritize -- if all are not
able to be funded, which does Estero want to do first, then second,
3.) It was unclear to the county if the requested funds were
all from them ($100K) or would Estero be responsible for half.
the final time for completion is to coincide with the County Plan
submission, the time should be Spring of 2013.
5.) Adoption should be
the final task -- the last of the sequence.
Ebaugh was asked to
forward to Lienesch some of the documents other community planning
groups have submitted just to see the level of detail expected. Jeff
suggested we circulate the revised document among the panel for
comments. This kind of work can be done outside of the sunshine laws.
On a somber note, Ebaugh announced that Matt Noble's wife passed
away last Friday. We asked her for specifics for the arrangements to
see what an appropriate response from us should be. Bev will coordinate
for the ECPP.
David Graham Award – Dickens will
email the group that made the selection last time.
Walk-on Issue: Noise Issue at Coconut Pointe Town
Center: Jim Bridenbaugh from Shadowwood asked about the temporary use
/ noise issue at Coconut Pointe. It was clear there was
uncertainty about what was supported at last month’s meeting.
Lienesch explained that he had discussed the issue with Pam Houck at the
county and had invited the Simon Mall manager to have a meeting with
some of the panel and county staff on site to clarify the situation.
Panel was adjourned at 8:00 PM
NEXT REGULAR MEETING: March 21,
6:00 PM, Estero Community Park