ESTERO COMMUNITY PLANNING PANEL
Minutes of Public Meeting #113 – March 15, 2010
Estero Community Park,
Panel Members Present:
Jack Lienesch, Civic Association,
Chairman; John Goodrich , ECCL;
Ned Dewhirst, Estero development community;
Maas, Estero Chamber of Commerce;
Dan DeLisi, Estero development community; Greg Toth, Founding
Member; Treasurer: Bev MacNellis, ECCL and Bill Brown, Recording Secretary,
Neal Noethlich; Erik Dickens.
Introduction of new panel members:
Lienesch called the meeting to order at 6:01 PM
and introduced: Ned Dewhirst, Sr. Vice President of Oakbrook Properties
who will represent the development community and Jeff Maas, Gates Construction,
replacing Lin Welch on the Estero Chamber of Commerce.
Toth becomes a “Founding Member” similar to Noethlich’s “Emeritus Member”
meeting notice appeared in the Naples Daily News Calendar, the Century-Link
Estero Events Calendar and Esterofl.org websites. The notice was posted at the
South County Regional Library, Realty World of Estero, the BB&T and Wachovia
Secretary’s Report: Brown distributed minutes of the February meeting. They were
corrected to show that the January minutes had been approved, not December.
Goodrich: Motion to accept minutes as corrected. : DeLisi
Second. Accepted unanimously.
Treasurer Bev MacNellis reported that the current balance of $463.36 is in the
Community Planning Panel account on deposit at the BB&T Bank.
Picaya Bay Surgery Center
Administrative Amendment – Alexis Crespo said the Surgery Center
is requesting an
Administrative amendment to add a usage to the existing zoning.
It authorizes a 500 ft. office for a Visiting Nurse. An existing
executive suite will be used. The Panel supported the request.
Lienesch will write an
email on their behalf to Pam Houck supporting their request.
Estero Greens Update - Lienesch sent a letter to Pam Houck
re: the recommendations in our minutes.
She responded that she would take them into consideration during the
county review. Then Veronica Martin
stated in an email to Lienesch “At
this time we will not be pursuing any zoning action and intend to comply with
the conditions set forth in the approved Zoning Resolution.”
In other words, they’re making a minor site revision to comply with
the existing zoning. We are
expecting a DO soon. – EDRC will see the plans.
They should look for the masonry wall at their Western boundary to be
consistent with adjacent parcels.
ask Bob Melzer , Chairman of EDRC,
to ensure Fountain Lakes is represented when the committee
reviews the designs.
US41 intersection update
– Rick Johnson (owner of the adjacent property),
Harry Campbell (Traffic Engineer from the County) and Lienesch will meet on
March 26 at the tire store site to discuss the issues.
Rick is concerned that he will lose the southbound left into his shopping
center with the US 41 widening.
He had tried to get an egress onto Broadway via an interconnect to the
post office property to the East but was turned down by the owner.
Harry wants to protect for a future additional eastbound lane to allow a
lane for dedicated left, through and right turns.
Our goal is to try to reach a compromise among all parties.
John Goodrich agreed to join our meeting on the 26th.
Discussion of meeting held with David Owen and Donna Marie Collins on their
recommendation as to how to amend the Lee Plan and LDC, among other issues.
Eslick, Lienesch and Nick Batos met on Feb. 24th.
Items pertinent to the ECPP included:
1.) Midtowne Estero – Owen said if you have something to challenge, you must
LAWYER UP. Don’t attempt to represent yourselves.
Collins – even with a lawyer and transportation engineer representing
Estero, the case would have been difficult to turn around.
Among other things, they discussed potential ways we could amend the
county documents to put a finer point on things such as big boxes and other
usages we would prefer not to have.
Two ways to do this: 1) Board Initiated – they would tell planning what to do;
2) Privately – hire a planner to submit requested changes to the Lee Plan.
Sept. 30, 2010 is the deadline for their regular cycle.
A fee would be required if not (1).
They also commented that “mixed use” was never defined as a
requirement…it’s been and continues to be an option.
Both attorneys emphasized we need to retain experts, not members of the
public, to get our documented testimony considered above lay opinion. Collins
commented that in refining plan language we need to review the layers in the
current policy…however she cautioned that we do NOT want to squelch economic
development in Estero by use of overly restrictive language.
She reiterated that we can amend the plan ourselves per (2).
After hearing this, DeLisi commented that all Estero Lee Plan amendments
have been county initiated! We are
an advisory body to the board with respect to plan changes for Estero.
Neither DeLisi nor Dewhirst could understand why we would want to change the Lee
Plan for the above amendments; they should be LDC amendments.
This will be discussed in future ECPP
Update on BCHC sign
– Bob Melzer from the EDRC and Lienesch met with Suzanne Bradach (new CEO of the Bonita Community
on February 22nd to give her the history of the sign controversy.
Lienesch’s meeting notes show:
BCHC has recently changed their logo. This will necessitate a redo of
the graphics on the existing sign at some time in the near future. Melzer offered
his committee's advice on how to alter the existing sign (as opposed to our
original suggestion to redo it completely). He noted that lettering standards
and color changes along with perhaps a change in the background would go a long
way toward making the appearance more consistent with Estero requirements.
Suzanne promised to review any future design changes for the sign with
the EDRC prior to implementing them.
on Signage in General
–DeLisi, Lienesch and Melzer met with Mary Zettel at County Code Enforcement to
discuss Chapter 33 vs. Chapter 30 and the issues we all have in interpreting our
language. Zettel showed
several areas of both codes that are inconsistent. Panel members were given a
handout comparing Chapter 30 (Lee
County) and Chapter 33
(Estero specific) language regarding signage.
Several proposals were discussed to refine our language…again, more to
come on this topic.
Continued discussion of the ECPP
section of the Developers’ Checklist –
Dewhirst will go through our website’s developer’s flow chart and note
any issues that need to be addressed from a developer’s standpoint.
Lienesch will schedule a meeting with our webmaster, Kim Dailey, and
anyone else interested in the checklist to review any changes that we need to
- John Goodrich discussed a meeting held with Paul Roberts (Southland
Village) and 200 residents of Cypress Bend
on the impact of Southland’s proposed new development.
The meeting went well, although there are still concerns over the issue
of flooding south of Broadway.
on David Graham Award for 2010
Dickens had a death in his family which
has caused postponement of this issue to our April meeting
DeLisi will sort out ULI timing for our award presentation later in the
Maas agreed to speak with Joe Murgalo at the Hyatt to ensure
they know what is available to them this Spring if they wish to cooperate with
Meeting adjourned at 7:25 PM.
6:00 PM, MONDAY, April 19, ESTERO