ESTERO COMMUNITY PLANNING PANEL
Minutes of Public Meeting #137 –
March 19, 2012
Park, Estero, Florida
Panel Members Present:
Chairman, Estero Community Association; Neal Noethlich, Emeritus
Chairman; Ned Dewhirst, Estero Development Community; Jeff Maas, Estero
Chamber of Commerce; John Goodrich, ECCL; Lena Boles, Recording
Secretary, ECCL; Roger Strelow, ECCL; Bev MacNellis, Treasurer; Greg
Toth, Founding Member.
Division of Planning, Lee
County Department of Community Development; Dan DeLisi, DeLisi
Fitzgerald, Inc.; Neale Montgomery,
Pavese Law; Ray Blacksmith
and Joe Cameratta of Cameratta Properties;
and Nicole Johnson of the Conservancy.
Public Notice: Posted at South County
Library Regional Library, BB&T and Fifth Third Banks and the Estero
Approval of Minutes:
Goodrich: Motion to waive the reading of the minutes of the
Feb 20, 2011 workshop and accept them as written, edited and posted.
Jeff Maas: Seconded.
Treasurer MacNellis reported a balance of $1,564.72.
Goodrich: Motion to accept the report.
Roger Strelow: Seconded.
Midtowne Estero East
-- Ray Blacksmith spoke
regarding the Cameratta Properties’ Midtowne Estero East proposed
residential planned development (RPD) administrative amendment.
In December, 2011, they requested lowering the residential
density from the approved 200 two story multi-family units to 125
single-family one-story units on the parcel using the same footprint.
Now they are asking to reduce the density further to 110 units
incorporating 55 duplex twin villa buildings, again on the same
footprint. Each would be
approximately 1500 sf featuring extended lanais but no individual pools.
Maximum roof height for each one story unit would be about 35 feet.
Audience members from Shadow Wood’s Longleaf Trail neighborhood
(immediately to the south) questioned the developers on buffering,
security and sightlines. The
developers indicated the minimum distance from their southernmost unit
structure to the northernmost Longleaf Trail residence will be 265 feet.
Their market target is empty nesters and second home buyers –
properties will be marketed at about a $200,000 price point.
Landscape buffers will remain as before – type B buffers of 20’,
20’ and 15’. Several
audience members complained about not receiving a notice on this zoning
change. Neale Montgomery indicated that the original RPD rezoning
several years ago required a public notice and public hearings.
Administrative amendments to a RPD zoning do not require public
notices or hearings if there is no increase of intensity or density and
no reduction of open space/buffers/preservation areas.
The developer indicated he wished to start development in 90 to
120 days. Strelow asked
about locating their turn in across from the fire station access turn.
After vetting the community input received, the panel indicated
it was in concurrence with Cameratta’s requested amendment.
Corkscrew Commerce MPD
requested a “Boutique
Pharmacy” as an added usage.
Prescription drugs and related supplies only – no drive through or
non-medical items would be present.
A public meeting at the site was held for neighboring communities
to address any issues. None
was raised. The panel
supports this additional usage.
Interior Parking Lot --
Bruce Russell from Shadow Wood in the
Brooks spoke of an interior parking lot addition proposal for one of the
neighborhoods to add an additional 6-8 spaces.
Apparently the contractor indicated the County refused to issue a
permit for a technical reason. The
panel suggested that Bruce direct the contractor to call Pete Eckenrode
533-8585 to explain the situation since the proposal appears to be a
Development Review issue.
The panel thought there should not be a problem.
Rezone/Comp Plan Amendment Status
– Jack reported on a meeting
at the county to discuss this project with Nicole Johnson, county staff
and several ECPP members in attendance.
The consensus from that meeting was that all felt the development
should go forward, but at issue is the community’s desire to keep the
property within the DR/GR Lee Plan land use category and to use some
method of transfer of development rights (TDRs) to achieve the density
gave an overview of the proposed
project, giving the merits over the existing approved development
plan. He said there should
be a way to compromise to keep it in the DR/GR so long as the project
can develop as proposed on a reasonable schedule and cost.
A complication with keeping the project within the DR/GR category
is that the county has yet to create a viable TDR program for use by
developers within the DR/GR area. Nicole indicated this will be the first case of this situation
(removal of land from the DR/GR area) since the DR/GR Area Study was
approved. Joe reminded
everyone that the original CEMEX plan was to develop 254 one-acre
minimum-sized residential lots each using individual potable water wells
and sanitary sewer septic systems.
Joe indicated that he is financing with private placement monies,
not banks, and their patience is short moving forward.
He is concerned that the costs of development such as utilities,
permit entitlement, panther mitigation, ACOE permits, etc. etc. are
stacking up and potentially could sink the project before it can get
started if TDR issues/costs are added as an additional hurdle.
The panel indicated that although this parcel is outside of
Estero’s current planning area boundary, we would welcome the
development as an addition should it move forward.
Neale Montgomery outlined possible situations for this issue that
she has identified, all of which would require an amendment to the
property out of the DR/GR
Lee Plan land use category and into the Suburban Lee Plan land use
the DR/GR Lee Plan land use category with conditions or overlays based
on what county staff and the Conservancy can agree to in the interim
County can establish a TDR
Much discussion then
ensued over these and other options for this property with all sides
weighing in on how this might/could be handled.
Finally, Neale offered to set up a meeting with the project
principals, county staff, the Conservancy, and select panel members to
attempt to craft an approach going forward that could be accepted by
Update on Chapter 19 LDC Signage
The second official
review of the recommended language changes that were presented to the
county in December 2011 and to the LDCAC on February 10th
were also presented to the EROC on March
14th with Jack in attendance.
No objections were raised.
Estero on the River
A letter was
received from Kevin Fitzgerald regarding his real estate firm’s acting
on behalf of DeJamoos to sell the property.
They were invited to the April meeting to present their plan.
Discussion ensued as to how we should handle this situation.
No consensus was reached.
Bella Terra Commercial
Jon Hagan of Banks
Engineering has asked to attend our April meeting to discuss their plans
for this site on Corkscrew
Road, just west of the Bella Terra entrance.
Community Plan Update Project
Dan Delisi updated
the panel on next steps – a meeting will be scheduled on March 31st
at Founders Hall at the church to discuss with residents of the historic
district various ways to enhance that area consistent with our updated
community plan efforts.
David Graham Award
Jack had proposed a
hiatus this year for the award, but was outvoted by the committee.
A meeting will be held to address how to sponsor an award for
2012 among the ECPP and EDRC David Graham Award committee members.
Jeff Maas accepted the assignment to spearhead the award this
Member Issues: The panel welcomed Lena
Boles to help with the secretarial duties.
Goodrich: Motion to adjourn
meeting. Mass: Seconded. Accepted unanimously.
Panel was adjourned at 8:00 p.m.
NEXT REGULAR MEETING:
Monday, April 16, 2012, 6:00 p.m., Estero Community