Estero Community Planning Panel
Public Meeting # 69
November 14. 2005
Marsh Landing Clubhouse, Estero, Florida
Panel Members Present
Neal Noethlich, Chairman; Don Eslick, Estero Council of Community Leaders;
Greg Toth , Estero Development Community; Jerry Van Gelder, Estero Fire Rescue;
Dan DeLisi, Estero Development Community, Jack Lienesch, Estero Civic
Association, Carl Barraco, Estero Chamber of Commerce. Treasurer: Fran Wagner,
ECA. Recording Secretary: Jim Ramsburg, ECCL.
Noethlich called the meeting to order at 6:04 PM.
David Graham Tribute
Noethlich requested a minute of silence in memory of the late David Graham, a
founding member of the Panel who died recently.
Twenty-seven participants were present including 18 members of the general
public. Ramsburg reported that public notices of the meeting were published in
the Fort Myers News-Press, the Bonita Daily News and the Bonita Banner. Notices
were posted on the Internet in the Estero Development Report and on the Web
sites of the ECCL/ECPP/ECA/EDRC and Estero Fire Rescue. A paid advertising
notice of the meeting was placed in the Bonita Banner of November 10th. Notices
of the meeting were posted in the South Regional Library, Colonial Bank and the
Estero office of Realty World.
Wagner reported a current balance of $7,304.31 in the Community Planning
Panel account on deposit at Colonial Bank in Estero. Toth: Motion to accept
Eslick: Second. Report accepted unanimously.
Noethlich distributed minutes of the October meeting. Eslick: Motion to
accept minutes. Lienesch: Second. Report accepted unanimously.
Jeff Satfield of CPH Engineering presented revised plans for a proposed
12,900 square-foot CVS Pharmacy
within the Plaza Del Sol commercial
development at the northeast corner of Corkscrew Road and Three Oaks Parkway.
The major revision was placement of the building's drive through facility on the
west side of the property, allowing the building to be moved closer to the south
property line, a reduction in the previously requested 80-foot setback to
approximately 65 feet. Van Gelder noted that the height of the drive-through
canopy and the width of the drive-through lane surrounding the building must
accommodate the height, width and turning radius necessary for large emergency
vehicles. Satfield replied that plan flexibility will allow for these
requirements. Eslick asked if a reduction of five feet in the building's 20
foot, (Type D), landscaping buffer between the storm water drainage easement and
the facility's drive-through lane might be incorporated to further reduce the
building's distance from Corkscrew Road to 60 feet. Satfield agreed that it
could. Toth asked if the requested deviation in setback distance might be tied
into the storm water management easement area to prevent this property deviation
from being cited as a precedent for other development proposals requesting
deviations. He suggested the possibility of a six-foot wall to further shorten
the distance. Satfield replied that a wall is possible and might be a
continuation of a wall on the property's west side. Noethlich commented that he
prefers landscaping to a wall, or in conjunction with a wall. He further stated
that the wall proposed by the developer of the adjacent Parcel C has very nice
architectural elements and a similar design to this on Parcel D might be
appropriate. DeLisi complimented Satfield on the design's improvements and said
that if the property's buffering might be incorporated with the storm water
easement, the Corkscrew Overlay's distance requirements could be better
satisfied. DeLisi asked if a sidewalk would be constructed on the south side of
the building to allow pedestrian access from Corkscrew Road, one of the original
intents of the Overlay district. Satfield replied that a five foot wide sidewalk
could be added within the buffer area. Noethlich added that pedestrian access to
CVS from Corkscrew Road with an extension of the sidewalk would be desirable but
that a discussion by the developer with county staff would be appropriate.
Presentation: Estero Park Commons (fka
Corkscrew Palms II)
Attorney Chuck Basinait of Henderson - Franklin presented a revision in the
proposal for the site located on
the southwest corner of Corkscrew Road and Corkscrew Palms Boulevard, the future
north access road to the Lee County
Estero Community Park.
Basinait said that the revision deals with the southeast corner of the site on
which two single story buildings for office and small retail use were previously
proposed and combining them into one, two-story building for the same use
totaling the same 24,300 square feet. Basinait said that the revision already
had the approval of county staff which recommended a presentation to the Panel.
Basinait added that the building design would be compatible to the adjacent
buildings within Estero Park Commons. Eslick asked if the parking spaces could
be better landscaped because the parking area was increased from 81 to 115
spaces. Basinait said that landscaping would be consistent if not exceed those
desired in Estero. Eslick also said that it would be nice if a portion of the
increased space available could be designed as a "commons" area.
Status of Pending Estero Amendments to Lee County Land Development Code
Noethlich reported that the amendments would be considered by the Local
Planning Agency on November 28 and by the Lee County Board of County
Commissioners in two public hearings scheduled for November 22 and December 13,
the projected date of adoption by the BofCC. DeLisi reported that he will attend
the LPA hearing and the December 13 BofCC hearing. Noethlich plans to attend
both BofCC meetings.
Funding of Current County Funding for Community Planning
Noethlich reported that the Panel has requested a meeting with Paul O'Conner,
Director of County Planning, to discuss the matter.
Proposal to Establish ECPP/EDRC David Graham Memorial Award for Development
Noethlich proposed an award to honor developments honoring distinctive
developments in the name of David Graham. Toth: Motion to establish award.
Barraco: Second. Motion passed unanimously. Detail possibilities were discussed
and Barraco was designated to organize the effort with the EDRC. DeLisi will
notify and seek concurrence from the Graham family.
Developer Perceptions of Architectural Standards
DeLisi said that since adopting the Corkscrew Overlay some developers have
the misconception that Estero is projected to be a community incorporating
nothing but Mediterranean design to the exclusion of Old Florida or any other
design considered compatible. He recommended that in areas north of Corkscrew
the Old Florida design be encouraged - adding that Old Florida design,
particularly north of Corkscrew and south of Broadway on US 41, would emphasize
the community's historic heritage and that some architecture can be designed as
a transition between areas of Mediterranean and Old Florida styles. Noethlich
added that Old Florida design was supported by many in the original Community
Plan workshops. Barraco said that most designs brought to his firm by
prospective developers are done in Mediterranean style. Toth supported
continuity in smaller contingent areas and would not like to see a mix of the
two styles in an area dominated by Mediterranean. Eslick recalled that most
residents favored Mediterranean style architecture and that most residential
communities incorporate that design, resulting in the Mediterranean style which
is stated as the preferred style in the Corkscrew Overlay. Eslick agreed that in
the area north of Corkscrew up to the Broadway area Old Florida style is
suitable. He noted, however, that Mediterranean designs already have been
presented for projects in this area and also along US 41 up to the Estero
Parkway area. There was a consensus that compatibility with neighboring designs
- as stated in the LDC - is an important consideration.
Mixed Use Development Symposium
Noethlich presented a proposed letter to county officials and developers
inviting them to the December meeting of the Panel to discuss True Mixed Use
Developments combining commercial and residential uses. The Panel agreed with
Toth: Motion to adjourn. Lienesch: Second. Motion passed unanimously. Meeting
adjourned at 8:52 PM.
6 PM, MONDAY, DECEMBER 12th, MARSH LANDING CLUBHOUSE