ESTERO COMMUNITY PLANNING PANEL
Minutes of Public Meeting #123– November 22, 2010
Park, Estero, Florida
Panel Members Present: Jack
Lienesch, Civic Association, Chairman; Dan DeLisi, Estero development
community; Greg Toth, Founding Member; Ned Dewhirst, Estero development
community; Erik Dickens, ECCL; Jeff Maas, Estero Chamber of Commerce;
Neal Noethlich, Emeritus Member.; Bev MacNellis, Treasurer, ECCL and
Bill Brown, Recording Secretary, ECCL.
Absent: John Goodrich, ECCL
Brown reported that the meeting notice appeared in a story in the
News-Press and the News –Press online calendar, the Century – Link
Estero Events Calendar and Esterofl.org websites. The notice was
posted at the South County Regional Library, Realty World of Estero, and
the BB&T and the Fifth Third Banks.
Secretary’s Report: Brown
distributed minutes of the September October 18th meeting.
Maas: Motion to accept minutes.
Noethlich: Seconded. Accepted unanimously.
MacNellis reported a balance of $1,000.72 as of October 29th, 2010.
PRESENTATIONS: Wal-Mart rezoning -
Jeff Satfield of CPH Engineers assisted by Jim Winter and Theresa Murphy
presented the revised
Wal-Mart plans. He said
Wal-Mart seeks to rezone its 33-acre site at the northeast corner of
U.S. 41 and Estero Parkway to allow a 155,000 square-foot-store, down
from 225,000, and to increase the number of outlots on U.S. 41 from one
to four. The 24-hour store would have groceries, general merchandise, a
pharmacy and garden center but no Tire & Lube facilities.
Toth commended the team on the building, stating that he thought it
looked fabulous, but noted that he would rather see an office or a bank
than a high-traffic generator, such as a fast food restaurant, on the
out-parcels. He requested a list
of uses for the out-parcels. Noethlich
indicated he is satisfied with the building design, but also wants input
on the out-parcels uses. Dickens
said he likes the green space, but he would like bike paths. Satfield
replied that bike paths could be added to the walkways by widening them
to 10 feet. Dewhirst asked
about the interconnects to the north and east, the accesses on US41 and
Estero Parkway, signage, outparcel internal access from Estero Parkway,
and roof noise reduction. Satfield replied the two entrances on the
Estero Parkway are requested to be full in-and-out while the US41 would
right-in right out, but left in only.
Dewhirst noted that the middle entrance off Estero Parkway may be
too short a distance from US 41 (660’) to operate safely as a full
access. This same type of
access just east of US 41 on Coconut Road ended up being a problem.
There will be monument signs at the entrances. Adding berms and
walls and refrigeration compressors on the roof should provide noise
reduction. DeLisi commented that uniform sign requirements would be
Audience suggestions –
Chris Smith, who lives at the Vines, said they were strongly opposed to
any interconnection that routed traffic to the Vines entrance. Jane
McNew, who lives in Belle Lago on Estero Parkway, said she doesn't want
the area around the store to get trashy and she is opposed to fast-food
in the out-parcels.
Feedback from November 13 Workshop – Erik Dickens.
Erik had organized the notes from the workshop into an 11-page handout.
He noted a few comments on the four topic areas:
Mobility -- add Light Rail,
dedicated RH-turn lane from Three Oaks to Corkscrew so people don’t go
through gas station, get bike paths off of the streets, crossing major
roads on bikes is dangerous and need large scale improvement, RR bed
conversion to bike path/trail. Sense
of Place: Diversify local economy with some employment centers
other than retail, non-retail should be sought after, improve Year Round
employment by creating mixed use are more public access to river and
bay, create parks near major waterways, need an Arts District,
more integration with Florida
Gulf Coast University. ARCHITECTURE
AND LANDSCAPING: More architectural variety needed, do not reduce
design standards. Once something
is built ugly it stays ugly. Promote patterns in Architecture Themes,
integrate older structures into new developments, manage “transition
between different uses”. See
Coconut Pt near Hyatt as example of poor transition, make harmonious
with neighbors, do not legislate “style” (for example “Mediterranean”),
instead enforce quality of design, encourage communities with mixed use;
incorporate bike paths into developments., need better code enforcement
of signage, strip malls, RR, and vacant properties, buildings are too
close to road on Corkscrew.
Signage: Street signs should have address numbers on them.
Estero Gateway signs: "Welcome to Estero".
Place on N/S entrances on 41 and
on Corkscrew. Noethlich said we need to provide opportunities for
continued input. Lienesch said DeLisi and Ebaugh will sort-out between
Land Development Code and the Comprehensive Plan.
DeLisi said we need a special
meeting on this before Christmas. We need to get comments to Lienesch
before December 3.
Proposal for tourist transportation connections by Calusa Blueways
Outfitters- Bill Odrey
told the panel that he had paddle boats and trolleys which he wants to
use to connect Fort Myers to South Lee County. He asked for the Panel
assistance and suggestions.
Sunshine Law Panel Redux –
Lienesch said, based on a letter from County Attorney David Owen, our
policy for the ECPP remains as follows: when we are doing PLANNING
(planning workshops, zoning/administration amendment recommendations,
etc.) these are always done in a noticed public meeting. Unlike a
sanctioned, funded advisory committee, however, we reserve the right to
meet at any time, with one or more of our panel members present, to
discuss with anyone whatever issues might impact the Estero community in
the future. Only when these discussions will lead to recommendations to
the county on zoning matters affecting Estero properties, do we insist
that they are held at an open, noticed public meeting.
Miromar Outlets LED
Neale Montgomery and Jeff Staner told the panel that the signs would be
inside the entrance off Corkscrew to show retail stores to 5 PM and then
change to restaurants. Montgomery and DeLisi took the position that the
present language of Section 33-57 permits the Panel to agree to
Deviations and Variances to allow such signs that are prohibited by
Section 33-383, but the County feels some amendment to the language may
be needed. The Panel agreed to go along with whatever is needed to
install the proposed signs and Lienesch will send an e-mail to the
County to that effect.
Coconut Point South Village Signage –
Dewhirst explained that the
Coconut Point South Village Association had approved a request to
relocate the DOPPCO (Tract 3A-3_3) tenant sign to the Pelican Colony
Blvd. median at US 41. A
presentation was made at the last EDRC meeting for this request and Lee
County will be reviewing for this change.
Panel was adjourned at 8:00 PM.
NEXT REGULAR MEETING: December 20, 6:00 PM, Estero